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Only in America?
« on: April 29, 2010, 08:12:22 AM »
There was a time when people would hear a news report and say "Only in America" could it happen.

This is one such story.

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Man stabs children at Chinese kindergarten
Man stabs 25 children in knife attack in Jiangsu province, the second targeting children in two days

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Re: Only in America?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2011, 11:13:01 AM »
Strange...I'm sure I had a couple more posts about only in America events happening somewhere that wasn't the USA.

Like this one.

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Rio school shooting leaves up to 20 children dead
As many as 20 people are feared dead after a gunman invaded a primary school in Rio de Janeiro and opened fire.

One witness told the Guardian he had seen between 15 and 20 children dead or seriously wounded inside the Tasso da Silveira primary school in western Rio.

"It is a massacre, a true massacre," said Roni de Macedo, a fireman who arrived on the scene shortly after the shooting began and dragged eight seriously injured children from the second floor classroom. "There is blood on the walls, blood on the chairs. There are 15 to 20 dead I think," said De Macedo, who was covered in blood.

"I've never seen anything like this. It's like something in the United States."

Witnesses said the shooting began outside the school at around 8.30am when a man opened fire on two boys, shooting one in the head and one in the arm with what was said to be handgun.

He is said to have cotinued through the school's metal gates and up to a packed classroom the second floor, opening fire on children aged between 11 and 13.

"I saw a load of injured kids, bleeding kids. I saw a dead guy inside. I heard more than 30 shots. My daughter was inside," said Hercilei Antunes, 44, a postman who lives opposite the school.

"It's always been a calm school," he added, standing on his bloodstained porch where he gave first aid to children who had been shot. "Today I heard shots, shots, shots and more shots. I tried to go in but he shot more and I am not made of steel."

With police helicopters hovering overhead, Yvonette Fernandes, 51, wept as she looked for news of her 12-year-old niece alongside scores of desperate parents. "Where is she? I want to know where she is!"

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Re: Only in America?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2011, 11:34:58 AM »
Only in Canada?
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Re: Only in America?
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2011, 07:36:01 PM »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/07/brazil-shooting-rampage-gunman
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Brazil shooting: 12 children killed in school rampage

Brazilian media describes killing by former pupil as the worst school massacre in the country's history
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Holland this time
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2011, 01:52:21 PM »
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6 killed, 16 wounded in Dutch mall shooting
Associated Press= ALPHEN AAN DEN RIJN, Netherlands (AP) — A gunman opened fire with a machine gun at a crowded shopping mall outside Amsterdam on Saturday, leaving at least six people dead and wounding 16 others, officials and a witness said.

The attacker was among the dead after fatally shooting himself at the Ridderhof mall in Alphen aan den Rijn, Mayor Bas Eenhoorn said. The suburb is less than 15 miles (25 kilometers) southwest of Amsterdam.

Eenhoorn said that children were among the victims, but he could not confirm whether they were among the wounded or dead, or both.

"It's too terrible for words, a shock for us all," he said.

The gunman's identity was known and it was "all but certain" he acted alone, District Attorney Kitty Nooy said, but investigators were not yet ready to release his name or age. She said he was a native Dutchman from Alphen who has a criminal record.

Witness Martine Spruit, a 41-year-old receptionist, told The Associated Press she was shopping at a drug store when she heard bangs and people in the store hid behind shelves. When they realized a shooting was taking place, customers shouted for employees to lock the doors.

"Then we heard the shots getting further away, so he was walking back and forth," she said. "Then we thought we'd have a look and there were two people lying dead near the entrance ... then he came back shooting so we locked the door again."

Queen Beatrix and Prime Minister Mark Rutte issued statements saying they were shocked and sympathize with the victims and their families.

A witness identified as Maart Verbeek told state broadcaster NOS the attacker had a machine gun and appeared to be shooting at random.

"There was a panic in the mall, a lot of people running," said Verbeek, a pet shop owner. "I see the attacker coming, walking, and I go inside the store ... and I see him going by with a big machine gun."

Hours after the shooting, residents continued to gather at the mall, some of whom appeared to be in a daze.

"You hear about this sort of thing happening at American schools and you think that's a long way away," said Rob Kuipers, 50, a project manager. "Now it's happened here in the Netherlands."

Eenhoorn said several other malls in the town were evacuated, but he would not elaborate on the reason. Dutch television broadcasters showed a bomb squad searching a car parked outside the Ridderhof mall that is believed to have belonged to the shooter.

Nooy said there was "no evidence" to support rumors the gunman was a former soldier, and confirmed his house has also been searched. She would not comment on reports that he left a note.

Witnesses said he had long blond hair, appeared to be about 25 years old, and wore a leather jacket with camouflage pants.

A resident who lives near the mall who gave his name as Marijn said the shooting went on for several minutes. When he went to see whether friends working at the mall were OK, he saw the shooter lying dead in front of a grocery store.

"There was glass everywhere," the resident said. "He was just shooting everywhere as if it were the Wild West."

Images published by the NOS showed the covered body of the shooter just inside a grocery store.

With his voice choking at times, Eenhoorn described the incident as a "disaster of unparalleled proportions" for Alphen, known as a quiet residential suburb, and it was all the more shocking because it took place on one of the first sunny days of spring.

"Under these circumstances, with many people shopping at the Ridderhof today, including parents with children, it's an almost incomprehensible situation," he said.

Although rare, shootings and violence are not unknown in the Netherlands. In 1999, four students and a teacher were hurt in a school shooting and in 2004, a teacher was shot dead by a student.

There have also been two assassinations in the past decade, the 2002 killing of right wing politician Pim Fortuyn by an animal rights activist and the 2004 murder of filmmaker Theo van Gogh by an Islamic extremist.

In 2009, a loner drove his car into a group of bystanders during a royal parade, killing eight and wounding 10.

Gun permits are difficult to obtain, but illegal automatic weapons and ammunition are frequently seized during drug busts.

Two people were killed in Alphen in a drug-related shooting several weeks ago. Nooy said investigators do not believe the incidents are linked. She said investigators were trying to trace the gun or guns used in the attack.

One unidentified witness on NOS television said he saw the shooter reload the magazine of his machine gun and continue to fire.

Police commissioner Jan Stikvoort denied reports police were slow to respond, saying they arrived while the shooting was ongoing and reached the gunman just as the shooting stopped.
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Re: Only in America?
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2011, 09:19:43 AM »
Norway posted elsewhere.

Almost immediately after....
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Gunman kills five at birthday party

    Press Association, Sunday July 24 2011

A man attending a birthday party at a roller-skating rink has opened fire after an apparent spat between family members, killing five people and wounding four others before shooting himself.

The shootings happened at around 7pm local time on Saturday at Forum Roller World in Grand Prairie, Texas, when police said the man drew a pistol during a fight between a husband and wife.

The names and ages of the victims were not immediately released, and the relation of the gunman to the other victims was not clear.

"It was an argument. The shooter had gotten into here at a private birthday party," said John Brimmer, Grand Prairie police spokesman, according to the Dallas Morning News.

"It escalated to the point where he pulled a gun and started shooting."

The injured survivors were taken to hospitals.

Aaron Feldt, of Grand Prairie, told the newspaper he was across the street when he saw some of the victims run across the rink's car park.

"I saw family coming across the street looking panicked," he said. "They had children along with some adults. You could tell there was a sense of urgency and panic in their eyes.

Great Southwest Parkway, a major street in front of the rink, was blocked off after the incident. As of 9.30pm, bodies were still inside the building, the Morning News said.

Byron Raspberry, of Grand Prairie, said his children go to the rink frequently because it is near their home. "It doesn't make any sense," he said. "I don't feel safe at all."

It's almost as if he was jealous of the attention Norway got. Or oblivious to it.  :(
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Liège attack: death toll climbs to six – including 'gun freak'
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2011, 10:08:28 PM »
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Man named as Nordine Amrani threw hand grenades and shot at crowds of Christmas shoppers, wounding dozens, in Belgian city
A convicted gun fanatic threw hand grenades and opened fire on a square bustling with Christmas shoppers in the centre of the Belgian city of Liège, killing at least six people, including himself, and wounding at least 122, some critically.

Hours after failing to show up for police questions about his preoccupation with guns, the 33-year-old unleashed a lunchtime attack on Place Saint Lambert, which was hosting a Christmas market that attracts 1.5 million visitors a year.

Last night, King Albert II and Queen Paola visited Liège, a tough, post-industrial city in the east of the country, which was in a state of shock after the attack. Initial fears that a trio of terrorists could be responsible were ruled out by police and prosecutors, as was any speculation that Belgium could be contending with a Norway-copycat killing spree. "It was an isolated act which has sown sorrow in the heart of the city," said Willy Demeyer, the mayor of Liège, the main city of Belgium's francophone smaller half, Wallonia.

Police said there were no indications that the dead assailant, a local man, had been involved with terrorism. Nor was there evidence of any ideological motivation. He threw three hand grenades while on the busy square, one at a bus shelter, killing two teenage students instantly.

An elderly woman died later of her injuries, as did a 23-month infant and a 20-year-old man.

The Liège prosecutor's office said 122 people were injured in the shootings and explosions, with many of them reported to be in a grave condition in local hospitals and in the Netherlands nearby.

The gunman was named as Nordine Amrani, a 33-year-old Liègeois who was known to be a "gun freak", according to the police. He was given a jail term of almost five years after police officers raided his metal workshop three years ago and found a dozen firearms, including an AK-47 machine-gun, and 9,500 gun parts. He was also found guilty of drug dealing after cultivating 2,800 marijuana plants.

Amrani arrived on the square with hand grenades, a rifle and a revolver.

He mounted a platform on the square and lobbed three grenades, opened fire with the rifle, and then shot himself with the handgun, according to police.

With local bloggers and Twitter networks going into overdrive, there were detailed "reports" on the alleged trio who had supposedly carried out the attack, with one said to have been arrested and the other allegedly fleeing through a bus tunnel after spraying the square with Kalashnikov fire.

Police said these reports were entirely inaccurate.

Place Saint Lambert is the city centre's busiest traffic hub and the location of the bus station as well as the Palais de Justice, which houses the main court and prison compound. Witnesses spoke of panic and blood-spattered streets as mayhem erupted at about 12.30.

Hervé Taverne, a middle-aged man working in the district, told Belgian radio: "We were just coming out of the justice building and we saw someone throwing a hand grenade. It all happened so quickly that we ran for our lives. I grabbed a youngster inside, back into the building.

"After that various wounded were brought in. We heard gunshots outside. Meanwhile we heard that there were several perpetrators, but we only saw one. We were also told that this was a [prison] escape operation."

A delivery man, Dimitri Degryse, was driving past when the gunman opened fire. "I heard an explosion and I thought there was something wrong with my car. Then a second grenade went off, I saw smoke and heard several shots.

"People were lying bleeding on the ground. I stopped to help them. We tried to get the wounded off the street as quickly as possible."

Gaspard Grosjean, a reporter for a Liège newspaper, arrived on the scene moments after the attack. "We saw people with bullet wounds in their shoulders, their hands," he told Reuters. "I see people completely scared, people are crying, everyone is on their phones."

Belgian mobile operators reported a surge in calls at lunchtime in the city centre, causing disruption to the networks.

The royal couple joined the country's new prime minister, Elio Di Rupo, and other senior government figures gathering in Liège.

For Di Rupo, a Socialist of Italian extraction who is from Wallonia and became Belgium's first native French-speaking prime minister in more than 30 years, the tragedy is his first test. He was sworn in as prime minister only last week following Belgium's world record in being unable to form a government – 589 days.

While police, prosecutors and politicians all emphasised that the Liège tragedy was no terrorist or politically-inspired assault – "he has no history of terrorist acts," the Liège prosecutor, Daniele Reynders, told journalists – there was no persuasive motive given to explain the rampage.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/13/liege-gunman-attack-nordine-amrani
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Florence gunman shoots Senegalese street vendors dead
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A lone gunman with extreme rightwing sympathies has gone on a shooting spree in Florence, killing two Senegalese street vendors and wounding three others before killing himself.

Gianluca Casseri, 50, an accountant, first shot dead two vendors and wounded a third with a .357 Magnum at the crowded Piazza Dalmazia street market on the outskirts of the city on Tuesday morning.

He then fled in a car after threatening to shoot a stall holder who attempted to stop him, reappearing later in the day at the central San Lorenzo market where he fired at two African vendors, wounding both.

Police officers found Casseri back in his car in the car park of the market, where they fired warning shots before he reportedly shot himself dead.

Described as a solitary type who had recently moved to Florence from a small Tuscan town, Casseri was a fan of fantasy comics and fiction including Tolkien. Last year he published a historical novel.

The Italian far-right, anti-immigration organisation Casapound said on Tuesday that Casseri was a "sympathiser" who had frequented one of its centres in Tuscany, holding talks on his book.

Around 300 Africans marched in protest at the killings, demanding to see Casseri's corpse. "Don't tell us he was a madman," said one, "because if he was he would have killed whites as well as blacks".

A vendor at Piazza Dalmazia said: "Senegalese lads often sell here, they don't make any trouble and no one expected this."

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Finland this time
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2012, 11:41:20 AM »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/26/finland-shooting-hyvinkaa-gunman

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An 18-year-old gunman killed one person and wounded eight others in what appeared to be a random shooting in a southern Finnish town, police said Saturday.

Officers arrested the suspect outside Hyvinkaa, some five hours after he fired several shots at people from a low rooftop just before 2am (2300 GMT Friday), said Detective Chief Inspector Markku Tuominen.

The suspect, a local man from Hyvinkaa, 50 kilometres (30 miles) north of the capital, Helsinki, did not resist arrest, Tuominen said.

"The man was found with two weapons ... including a hunting rifle," Tuominen said, adding that police knew of no possible motive pending an investigation.

The gunman killed an 18-year-old woman and critically wounded two people, including a 23-year-old police officer who arrived at the scene soon after Hyvinkaa police received an alert.

Shootings are not uncommon in Finland where there are 650,000 officially recognised gun owners in a population of 5.4 million people, with strong hunting traditions. In recent years, Finland has also seen two deadly school shootings.

In 2008, a culinary student killed nine fellow students and a teacher before shooting himself at a vocational school in the western town of Kauhajoki. A year earlier, an 18-year-old killed six fellow students, a nurse and the principal at a high school in Tuusula, southern Finland.

After those attacks, authorities took steps to improve safety at schools, including installing surveillance cameras and locks on classroom doors and training staff to deal with shootings.

Two months ago, a 23-year-old gunman wounded the father of his former girlfriend in an office building before firing several shots through a classroom door in southern Finland. No one was hurt at the junior high school, and the attacker quickly surrendered.
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Or Canada
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2012, 11:01:03 PM »
Food court, Eaton Centre, Toronto.
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Re: Or Canada
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2012, 10:34:34 PM »
Food court, Eaton Centre, Toronto.

Might be gang related. Probably doesn't count.

I've eaton in that food court.  :D
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Re: Only in America?
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2012, 10:40:56 PM »
That's not too far from where the chef Sears the steaks.
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Re: Only in America?
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2012, 09:38:03 AM »
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Eviction man guns down four people



The gunman had been due to be removed from the apartment in Karlsruhe, Germany for not paying the rent.

He shot dead a court bailiff, a locksmith, one other person and the woman who was due to move in.

Initially police thought he had taken some of the victims hostage and lay siege to the flat.

Eventually officers stormed the apartment and found the bodies, including that of the gunman, a spokesman said.

It was not clear whether police had ever managed to make any contact with the gunman before the hostages were killed.

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Re: Only in America?
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2012, 02:31:55 PM »
I wouldn't want to be a landlord. It takes forever to evict somebody if you go by the books. You have the Rentalsman to deal with and so many rules and regulations to follow it is almost easier to take OJ Simpson to trial, and possibly quicker. Every day a tennant stays after being evicted is a huge liability, not to mention, loss of rental money. It gives the evictee plenty of time to trash the place or think up other evil plans (like shooting people, etc). Shhh, just off the record, hire two WWE sized guys and a U-haul truck. Let them drop by and load it up. Where it goes is none of your concern, wave as your problem leaves the driveway. If worse comes to worse pay another $50.00 and unload it at the landfill site. I know is sounds mean on paper, but may be a lot easier than paying out $20,000.00 or $30,000.00 in repairs, and saves a few months in aggrevation, too.
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Re: Only in America?
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2012, 12:53:51 PM »
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Re: Only in America?
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2012, 09:37:39 AM »

Portland mall shooting: three dead including gunman

Man dressed in camouflage, armoured vest and mask kills two people before turning gun on himself, say police

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Re: Only in America?
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2012, 02:36:37 PM »
'27 dead' in Connecticut primary school shooting

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Re: Only in America?
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2012, 09:44:22 PM »
I have two wishes:
1. Either that type of sh*t stops....
2. ....or the media stops sensationalizing it.

I find it very revolting to see this "crap of the day" stuff plastered everywhere and people making money selling it.
Tomorrow there will be a bigger and better "crap of the day" selling whatever people can make money from.
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Re: Only in America?
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2012, 08:59:01 PM »
Simon Hoggart in the Guardian:

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Friends have written from America about the Newtown shootings. Mike Tracey, a Brit living in Colorado, says that for once real change in the gun laws is possible, because the event has horrified people more than anything since 9/11. On the other hand, he points out, Colorado has recently become one of the states where it is legal to carry a concealed weapon. This includes in classes at the ultra-liberal Boulder campus of Colorado University. One staff member who said he would refuse to teach anyone packing heat was told that was in breach of the law; he would be disciplined, not the student strolling into class like Dirty Harry. They are now allowed to ask if anyone is tooled up, but can't do anything about it if they are. This in a state that voted for Obama, and is one of three where marijuana is legal.

And the Colorado Bureau of Investigation reported that last weekend was their busiest ever for background checks, as people flocked to buy guns, especially assault rifles, before they were made illegal.

Frank Weil blogs that coincidentally on the same day 26 people were shot dead in Connecticut, a maniac attacked 20 children at a school in China. The difference was that none of the Chinese children died, because the man only had a knife. So much for the NRA mantra "guns don't kill people, people kill people".

Meanwhile, nearly 9,500 people died from gunfire in the US last year, at a rate more than 50 times that of the UK. Half of all the privately owned guns in the world are in the US. I don't think it's going to be easy getting the toothpaste back into that tube.
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Re: Only in America?
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2012, 08:27:46 PM »
Despite making my rude sounding beer induced blast a couple of nights ago, my condolences go out to the poor victims and familys affected by this type of stuff. It just bothers me to see it happen on the news, then see it over and over again knowing some other jackass with a knife or gun sees it as a way to gain a few days of fame by outdoing the person before him.
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Bodies in the garage
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2014, 10:01:02 PM »
Perhaps the case of the Utah mother and the dead babies in the garage really IS case of only in America.
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Only in America?
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2014, 10:55:17 PM »
Here is another crazy one..


DC Resident Mark Witaschek Found Guilty of Attempting to Possess Illegal Ammo

By Robert Farago on March 27, 2014

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/03/robert-farago/dc-resident-mark-witaschek-found-guilty-of-attempting-to-possess-illegal-ammo/

“After two years of sheer and complete legal lunacy, businessman and recreational hunter Mark Witaschek has been found guilty in the District for attempting to possess illegal ammunition without having a gun registered in DC,” commdiginews.com reports. “The biggest problem with the verdict, aside from the fact that the trial was held at all, is that the ammunition in question is for antique replica muzzle loading weapons which are not required to be registered in the Nation’s Capital.” Emily Miller at washingtontimes.com reports that Judge Robert Morin sentenced Mr. Witaschek to time served, a $50 fine and required him to enroll with the Metropolitan Police Department’s firearm offenders’ registry within 48 hours. In other words, Witaschek’s gun rights are gone and he could lose his license to practice at his financial management company. Witaschek plans to appeal.


DC Police Raid Home, Arrest Man for Possession of Single Shotgun Shell and Spent Cartridge

By Nick Leghorn on October 23, 2013

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/10/foghorn/dc-police-raid-home-arrest-man-for-possession-of-single-shotgun-shell-and-spent-cartridge/


Mark Witaschek, a successful financial adviser with no criminal record, is facing two years in prison for possession of unregistered ammunition after D.C. police raided his house looking for guns. Mr. Witaschek has never had a firearm in the city, but he is being prosecuted to the full extent of the law. The trial starts on Nov. 4.

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After entering the house, the police immediately went upstairs, pointed guns at the heads of Mr. Witaschek and his girlfriend, Bonnie Harris, and demanded they surrender, facedown and be handcuffed.

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His 16-year-old son was in the shower when the police arrived. “They used a battering ram to bash down the bathroom door and pull him out of the shower, naked,” said his father. “The police put all the children together in a room, while we were handcuffed upstairs. I could hear them crying, not knowing what was happening.”

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The police found no guns in the house, but did write on the warrant that four items were discovered: “One live round of 12-gauge shotgun ammunition,” which was an inoperable shell that misfired during a hunt years earlier. Mr. Witaschek had kept it as a souvenir. “One handgun holster” was found, which is perfectly legal.

What makes this more worrying is that the police had previously sent their “gun recovery” (read: confiscation) team to Witaschek’s house on the suspicion that he owned an illegal firearm, but found nothing. So they decided to conduct a full-on SWAT raid of his home, point loaded firearms at him and his family, then haul him off to jail for possession of a single inoperative shotgun shell and a spent casing from a .270.

This very same police department has no problem handing politicians dangerous “assault rifles” to show off at their dog and pony shows in clear violation of the law. They’re fine with letting liberal journalists flout the law prohibiting “high capacity” magazines, showing them on national television with no legal repercussions. But God forbid a single citizen should have a spent round of ammunition — clearly proximate cause indicating criminal intent.